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Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
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Posted - 2012.05.08 19:34:00 -
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In this blog, Helicity reports "over 3000 kills".
If you go to EVE-Kill, the frontpage does indeed list over 3000 kills.
However if you actually go into the killboard and count everything up, you see the number of destroyed mining vessels is closer to only 1000. (As of 1.5 days ago)
So what's the deal? Is Helicity lazy, stupid, or just a liar? Did I miss something? If so, explain. |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.08 19:46:00 -
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Jayrendo Karr wrote:Are capsules counted as kills?
I'm not reading anything in the literature about capsules being counted as kills.
Kills counted are mining barges, exhumers, and the cap ships - orcas and rorquals.
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Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:13:00 -
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morons wrote:Unable to answer.
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Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 21:13:00 -
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So no one can explain why the number's Helicity's reporting contradict the actual killboard, I take it? |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.08 21:20:00 -
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INB4 more red herrings |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.08 22:19:00 -
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lanyaie wrote:And what number of the #3000 people that lost a ship is your main sir?
So can you explain why Helicity reports 3k kills, but the KB confirms only about 1000? |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.08 22:51:00 -
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Those are some pretty bad attempts to cover your arse, Helicity. I have to say I'm really disappointed - I expected more from you than this clumsy obfuscation.
None of what you said actually addresses, clarifies, or refutes what I said.
Helicity Boson wrote:Simple, the killboard tool Mirotrem built for hulkageddon scrapes killmails from EVE-kill, and only accepts mails that are API verified, and meet the criteria of the contest.
But I appreciate your pathetic attempt to make me look bad you little toolie GÖÑ
But if you want to cry, please do continue, your idiocy is amusing to me!
Your API explanation doesn't actually explain anything.
Let me take you through this... slowly.
This page: http://hulkageddon.goonswarm.com/ reports 3584 kills.
This page: http://eve-kill.net/ reports 3992.
The contention isn't the difference between those two numbers. I could care less about http://hulkageddon.goonswarm.com/, because I wasn't referring to that page at all. But nice try to obfuscate. Let's get right back down to the actual point at hand, shall we? Yes we shall:
The contention is that when you load the EVE-Kill (http://eve-kill.net/) Hulkageddon board, the internal numbers only account for about 1/3 of what the front page (the front page, you know, where you get your numbers from).
I'm asking why such a drastic difference between the kills you're reporting and the actual numbers of kills. Nevermind Goonswarm, I'm talking to you.
the front page of eve-kill lists their total, which is HIGHER than mine (b/c we only accept api verified kills)[/quote]
Let me take you by the hand and walk you through this very slowly Helicity.
Yesterday (May 7, 2012), you reported 3200 kills. The frontpage did indeed display 3200ish kills... yesterday. Today is May 8th, 2012. Can you see why your comment there doesn't make much sense now? Either way, it's irrelevant: Going into the board on EVEKill loads completely different numbers than what's listed on the front page. The numbers are being padded. If it's "only displaying API verified kills", then your number should be... around 1500 I'm afraid. Not 3000.
Helicity Boson wrote:oh and btw, sir genius... you're adding up the numbers of this month, EVE kill has pagination.
Yes. I am adding up the numbers for this month (the month of March). Hulkageddon started April 28th. There are 30 days in April. Are you really trying to imply that 2 days accounts for the nearly 2.5k difference in the numbers being reported? That's a very weak defense. But I guess besides calling people names and posturing, you don't really have much else to you.
If you spent half the effort actually reporting the numbers accurately as you spent in trying to obfuscate your way out of an embarrassing situation, you wouldn't have been in said embarrassing situation in the first place.
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Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:09:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Invalid criticism.
So you can't explain it, either?
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Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:09:00 -
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This is going to be known as the Hulkageddon Scandal. |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:19:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I can +1 too
So what you're telling me is that you can't explain the drastic difference in numbers?
Alright then. |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:23:00 -
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Algia Knightstorm wrote:Unoriginal troll.
So you're also unable to explain the difference in numbers? |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:30:00 -
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Algia Knightstorm wrote:InappropriateLanguageCleaned wrote:? No. I don't care. I have better things to do than go on the forums and whine about carebears getting curbstomped.
You just whine about people posting about it, instead? |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:35:00 -
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Algia Knightstorm wrote:Helicity is venting about you on twitter. She's real mad.
Thank you for that information, kind sir! o/ 
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Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.09 01:03:00 -
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Henry Haphorn wrote:Jacob, you assume as if this matters. The numbers will not change anyone's perception of Hulkageddon and how the campaign affects the in-game economy. It will not change the fact that CCP endorses this event every year and has thus become a regular pass time for us just like baseball has become an American pass time (or was football?).
I'm just asking questions. I think you're the one who needs to put your assumptions away. :) |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.09 01:12:00 -
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Henry Haphorn wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:Henry Haphorn wrote:Jacob, you assume as if this matters. The numbers will not change anyone's perception of Hulkageddon and how the campaign affects the in-game economy. It will not change the fact that CCP endorses this event every year and has thus become a regular pass time for us just like baseball has become an American pass time (or was football?). I'm just asking questions. I think you're the one who needs to put your assumptions away. :) Your questions imply that you are assuming that this whole numbers thing matters.
Questions indicate curiosity.
Try not to read too deeply into it. After all, "it doesn't matter". ;)
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Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.09 14:38:00 -
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I don't think I've ever seen so many kneejerk reactions in one place.
Helicity Boson wrote:Basically what we have here is a hilarious moron who is so ~mad~ that someone is more popular than him, that he will go to any embarrasing length to try and make a scandal happen.
"Popular"? ....Are you still in highschool?  Wow I don't even...
I assure you, you can keep your popularity. I don't want to be popular.
.....Which is why I post on an anonymous alt.....
Helicity Boson wrote:Except it won't, because people know me, because I've run this event many times before, and mostly because this is the most transparent one yet, every kill is API verified and can be found on eve-kill.
Heh, well... not every kill...
Helicity Boson wrote:There is nothing you can ever do to me, feel free to keep trying though.
Well I sure seem to have upset you. You seem genuinely troubled that I, this anonymous forum alt, may have criticized you.
Generally speaking... people who are scared of criticism... or have deep secrets they fear exposure of... or are insecure and have a deep need to be accepted and validated... will react in a hostile, insulting manner to any criticisms, real or imagined..
Jacob Staffuer wrote:So what's the deal? Is Helicity lazy, stupid, or just a liar? Did I miss something? If so, explain.
Anyway guys, like I said, if I missed something, explain. Turning this into an epeen thing makes you guys look bad, not me, because I'm not here to be "the enemy". I have no trouble admitting that I missed dates on the individual kills, which adequately explains why the front page displays a different number than the internal board. Thank to Tauranon for clearing that up for me.
To everyone else: I hope one day you resolve the inner hurt that mires your frontal cortices. |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2012.05.09 17:37:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:Anyway guys, like I said, if I missed something, explain. They did explain it. Multiple times.
Yes and I acknowledged it. Try reading my post fully before you respond. You'll look much less stupid. |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:43:00 -
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The best part is how I get to walk away with a bucket full of tears.
SnivellingBaby wrote:*sniffle* you should apologize... *sniffle* 
Ahhh. I won't be thirsty for the next week.
Thank you all. |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy
Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:21:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:So no one can explain why the number's Helicity's reporting contradict the actual killboard, I take it? Dude, none of these socially inept clowns are going to give you a straight answer. This is one of the reasons I stopped posting here. I tried to warn everybody about helicty and how last hulkageddon one of her alts somehow won first place. Nobody listened. Nobody ever listens on these forums until it's to late and then the same people scratch their heads and wonder how everything got to where it is now. Helicity is a toolbag of a scam artist and the only impressive or noteworthy quality is that people continuously fall for the same one trick pony of a scam despite all the documentation and related evidence of it being a scam.
I see that now. And Helicity is obviously some chick who's still in highschool based on the things she says. Not worth the trouble.
She's lying, and that's all there is to it. Every other killboard on EVE-Kill has updated but not Hulkageddon. All there is too it.
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